GOYIM
Some Jews have issue with refering to non-jews as "GOYIM", I on the other hand encourge such attitudes.
I know there are chasedei umos ha'olam (like George F. Will).But in the main under all the smiles and the 2nd council we have GOYIM.
July 10, 1941: half the polish town of Jedwabne murdered the other half. Jan Gross book ‘Neighbors’, "This is a rather typical book about the Holocaust. . . I could not say to myself when I got to the last page, ‘Well, I understand now'." Perhaps he is flinching from the awful answer his book supplies. On June 22, 1941, Germany attacked the USSR, which was occupying the part of Poland containing Jedwabne. On June 23 a small detachment of Germans entered the town. There were almost immediately some isolated atrocities by Poles against Jews—one man stoned to death with bricks, another knifed and his eyes and tongue cut out. German policy encouraged pogroms by local populations, and there were some ghastly ones near Jedwabne. One of the first questions asked of the Germans occupying the town was, is it permitted to kill the Jews?
After the carnival of killing, the Germans reportedly thought the Poles "had gone overboard" and said to them, "Was eight hours not enough for you to do with the Jews as you please?" But the murderers were not socially marginal people. At a town meeting—democracy, really—Jedwabne's leaders met with the Germans. Gross quotes a witness: "When the Germans proposed to leave one Jewish family from each profession, local carpenter Bronislaw Szlezinski, who was present, answered: We have enough of our own craftsmen, we have to destroy all the Jews, none should stay alive. Mayor Karolak and everybody else agreed with his words."
The mayor coordinated the killing, but otherwise, Gross says, "people were free to improvise." Peasants from nearby villages got word of the planned pogrom and came to town as to a fair. A Pole recalls that "the Jewish population became a toy in the hands of the Poles." In Jedwabne hooks and wooden clubs were used. A head was hacked off and kicked around. To escape the killers, women fled to a pond and drowned their babies, then themselves. But most were burned alive in a barn while the town was searched for the surviving sick and children. A witness: "As for the little children, they roped a few together by their legs and carried them on their backs, then put them on pitchforks and threw them onto smoldering coals."
Everyone "in possession of a sense of sight, smell, or hearing either participated in or witnessed the tormented deaths." The last faces seen by these Jews were the familiar faces of neighbors.
The Germans' involvement was confined to photographing events and, in one instance, offering the sort of advice professionals offer amateurs. A witness recalls that when Poles with thick clubs were battering six Jews, a watching German said, "Do not kill at once. Slowly, let them suffer."
They did un-coerced murdering after just two weeks of German occupation, before being conditioned by propaganda.Neither can Jedwabne be explained by Easter sermons characterizing Jews as God-killers, or by medieval myths about ritual murders of children by Jews, or by lust for plunder.
Why in Jedwabne did neighbors murder their neighbors?
Because that’s what GOYIM do.
THE ABOVE IS BASED ON A George F. WillARTICLE
(tap link to see org.)
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12 Comments:
At 8/29/2005 10:57 AM, AMSHINOVER said…
Rabbi Baker (of PA)
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was from Jedwabne
At 8/29/2005 2:10 PM, Reuven Chaim Klein said…
you are totally right on
At 8/29/2005 2:21 PM, WBS said…
I don't have anything poignant to say about this. You've put non Jews (which includes me) into two categories, hateful or pious. Most people in this world (non Jews and Jews) don't fit into either category. It is your loss if you think it's rare to find quality people amongst the nations. If you put me in the same category as murderers, you've ended a conversation before it had a chance to begin.
At 8/29/2005 2:25 PM, AMSHINOVER said…
WBS READ WILL'S ORG. ARTICLE
At 8/29/2005 2:39 PM, WBS said…
Why? Because they could...?
I read it.
At 8/29/2005 6:39 PM, Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said…
Huh? The article doesn't say they did it because they were "goyim". It says they did it because they could. And it brings the example of Cambodia.
Throwing the "goyim" card in there is bullshit.
Letza‘areinu harav, Jews would do it too.
At 8/29/2005 8:08 PM, Anonymous said…
areilim, antismiten
At 8/30/2005 5:21 AM, Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said…
sirrantsalot:
that just means that you have no respect for other people.
PC is the simple notion that you should respect other human beings enough to identify them as they want to be identified.
At 8/30/2005 6:20 AM, AMSHINOVER said…
steg
perhaps we too would do it, i don't know
we really never had the chance. but i do know what history has shown, do not be blind.every stay in exile, for us has ended with a bang.
At 8/30/2005 6:46 AM, AMSHINOVER said…
TRUE
At 8/30/2005 9:03 AM, Anonymous said…
Mr. Steg:
"PC is the simple notion that you should respect other human beings enough to identify them as they want to be identified."
Funny you should say that. I am not talking out of my ass here. I am stating what I know from other people from different cultures. For instance, I have a business associate who is black, and a wonderful good person, and he is offended by the term African-American. He feels that is a forced generalization and that is not who he is. If you want to start to be PC then everyone should walk around with tags stating what they are. Then we would be able to address people without offending them.
Wait a second, didn't some country do that to us some time I ago. That didn' work out to well did it.
At 8/30/2005 9:55 AM, Anonymous said…
Steg,
By the way, I have more respect for people then you might realize.
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