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Monday, November 14, 2005

Do Me Som'ding, Ya



Last night I heard Hella Winston author of the book Unchosen : The Hidden Lives of Hasidic Rebels speak, many of the quests at the reading were not orthodox, but ' Baruch Hashem' there were some ex-/ neo-/ post-/ quasi-/ pre-Heimishe present. The post Heimishe were easily identified as their Austro-Hungarian accents reared its’ ugly head, heck even famed Shtriemel was present (maybe ?).The overall atmosphere was anti-clerical or at least charged with rage against the Chasidic community. Yada , Yada , Yada ....

Some Points of Interest to Me:

-One woman wanted to know how the ‘Chasidics’ though ‘all’ poor, can ‘all’ afford big expensive cars. To which yours truly shut her down by heckling “All? All?”

-One gentleman who looked like his ancestors came from Puerto Rico asked several poignant questions, his annunciation though gave him away as a post-‘Yoli’.A very angry one at that.

-Some oldhag wanted to know why her grandson wanted to become " a Lubavitch".(Duh the hot girls , think Mid'yan).

-After the lecture we sat around guessing who’s’ who, which one of us was or is which blogger.

-We had 15 men with a yeshiva education and no minyan.

-In the elevator with a mix of neo-/ post-/ quasi-/ and pre-s one post-bobver named ‘Motti” claimed that a presumptuous fellow of the U/O Litvish persuasion said “Motti I’m glad you are no longer chassidish , why don’t you become a Litvak”

-I met someone once named Tully, who introduced me to his friend (?) [life's partner (?)] and had managed to lose his accent, the two of them are making a documentary about faith in America. Update see here

-amshinover:if you have nothing nice to say, say it here


  • At 11/14/2005 2:07 PM, Blogger Hirshel Tzig said…

    where'd she speak?

  • At 11/14/2005 2:10 PM, Blogger Hirshel Tzig said…

    never mind, I checked the link. sorry.

  • At 11/14/2005 3:48 PM, Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said…

    Why was i not informed? :-P

  • At 11/14/2005 6:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    In the late 1920's, the Amshenover Rebbe told my father to leave Poland and start a new life. He married my mother who he had known for 4 weeks and they came to America. My father went to cheder with the Amshenover's son. are you related in some way?

  • At 11/14/2005 7:04 PM, Blogger mnuez said…

    Around 10 yrs ago during a fire and brimstone riot on kikar shabbos I met a post-something who was pretty small, looked like a puerto rican, couldn't speak straight english for the life of him and was once a tullener chassid (a chassid of the rebbe in montreal who isn't allowed into the US. tullin, right?) He was with some cute shiksalah whom he claimed was a) his wife and b) jewish.

    and i haven't thought of the guy in years until your piece made me wonder whether you met him.

  • At 11/14/2005 7:27 PM, Blogger Hirshel Tzig said…

    that's Tosh, not tullin.

  • At 11/15/2005 7:25 AM, Blogger AMSHINOVER said…

    Anonymous i'm just a chussid

  • At 11/15/2005 6:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    “Motti I’m glad you are no longer chassidish , why don’t you become a Litvak”

    nu? If they weren't so bigoted, alot of them would do that, and many of their problems would go away.
    except the ones that are left by the UO/litvaks copying the chassidim.

  • At 11/16/2005 2:47 AM, Blogger Frummer????? said…

    I purchased this book as soon as it was released and stayed up late reading it. Ever watched a movie which felt like it was going to become interesting in a second, only to suddenly realise that the end credits were rolling, and the expected interesting bit never materialised?

    This book is just like that.

    Furthermore, it dwells quite a bit on the story of a rebel who has some mental health issues, clearly not your run of the mill rebel, and not at all representative of the other rebels out there. The book doesn’t contain much real insight into the minds of Chassidic youngsters who are “going off”. Being one such “rebel” myself (albeit in secret) I could have written a better book.

    It doesn’t live up to it’s promise. Don’t buy it.

    Read our blogs instead, they’re free, and they’re more interesting.


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